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Peacenik wrote:
> "Knemon" <grouch@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:4ljomrF28peoU1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Michael wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I had to come up with an IPA transcription for the word "furor" today
> > > (leaving the second syllable unstressed, without an "oh" sound), and
> > > I'm a bit confused as to what it should be.
> >
> > The Oxford version os SAMPA for furor is /"fjU@rO;/,
> > IPA (UTF-8)/'fj??r??/,
> > ASCII-IPA /'fjU@rO:/
> >
> > Jones uses
> > for BrE (ASCII-IPA) /'fjUrO:/
> > IPA (UTF-8) /'fj?r??/
> > for AmE (ASCII-IPA) /'fjUrO:r/ or /'fjUrR/
> > IPA (UTF-8) /'fj?r??r/ or /'fj?r?/
> >
> >
> > > After all, the "-or" is
> > > clearly the alveolar approximant (upside down "r" in IPA), but what
> > > about the preceding "r"? It doesn't make any sense to write "fjurr"
> > > with two r's.
> >
> > The alveolar approximant (/?/ turned r in IPA) is just /r/ in ASCII-IPA.
> > The "-or" is *not" "clearly the alveolar approximant". The first 'r'
> > might be.
> >
> > Your mispronunciation of the second syllable (and that with multiple
> > standard pronunciations to choose from)is an error. If you had not made
> > that error, you would not be tempted to write "rr".
>
> I pronounce "furor" and "fuehrer" the same, and these rhyme with "demurer"
> in my dialect.
What is <demurer>? "Demurrer" doesn't rhyme with "furor." Oh! 'More
demure'. Doesn't really count, because of the morpheme boundary.
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